Of all people why have CC decided to use Erik Rutan as the producer of the next album. Every album I have ever heard him produce has been muddy,dull and generally shit sounding just take "I,Monarch" as an example. What does everyone else thinK?

i agree......i monarch is a sludge pool of sonic mush.......and like u said i think it was u..that album is so over hyped and its so crappy...it has one song worth a piss on it....

well i guess we will have to wait and see what he does here....hopefully the CC guys wont let him churn out their album if it sounds remotely like the ass i monarch does.

I wonder why they're using a producer at all ? Why not just produce themselves ?

correct me if im wrong but i think i heard/read cc recorded digital lately?? info ?

I think The Wretched Spawn was the first album of theirs that was recorded, mixed, and mastered digitally.

im not a fan of digi recording.......at all......to clean way to clean and perfect sounding to an anal fault ...looses a ton of warmth and feel as well...which IMO cc could really use again.

Some things sound good recorded digitally. Drums sound great, vocals sound great. Death growls and guitars don't really sound all that good recorded purely digitally though. Especially for guitar tones.

I don't think CC is gonna let someone step in and ruin their sound...I'm not worried a bit

i thought i read sometime last year that the last analog recording studio had closed--or at least changed its technology. i don't remember which. in anycase, it's all protools now. am i wrong? i only ask because i thought i read the other day that nuclear assault were trying to get their old 80s sound back via analog, which i found confusing....

i forgot to say, also, that i agree with you 100%--i'm totally for analog. digital has no warmth at all. and while this is slightly off-topic, this is also why i prefer vinyl over cd's.

i monarch is a masterpeice.....hate eternal is one of the best death metal bands around at the moment.........erik rutan is a god.......hes not gonna fuck with cc's sound.........stop worrying over nothing

There are still tons of analog machines in all good recording studios. Major studios have tons of work on 2" 24 track and they have machines with which to utilize the master tapes.

Also, digital recording is great, as the newer ProTools HD+ samples at 192khz. What I do in the studio is run vocals and guitars through a D.W. Fearn VT2 tube preamp to add "warmth" to the sound. Another thing that is absolutely mandatory is a good compressor/limiter, as digital distortion is a nasty thing. One of the things that you can do on analog is bias the machine to hit the tape harder and oversaturate it... always running at 30ips.

I have recorded on analog tape for a long time, but I now prefer digital for many reasons and I have found that you can get exactly what you are looking for with digital and the proper outboard gear.

I would suggest at least the following outboard gear:

Focusrite or Avalon tube compressor
D.W. Fearn, Presonus or Avalon tube preamp
TC Electronics Finalizer

These things will help you get the sound you want.

There are many plug-ins that work with TDM in ProTools that are absolutely great as well.

All-in-all, digital is a fine way to record.

jesus! that's a lot of a good information, man... thanks! i still prefer analog, however. it's probably due to being somewhat anti-technology (that's not an absolute, tho). ...or it's just plain ol' ignorance to what effects can really be done. i've used some digital equipment--just a little bit--in a totally different context (video art) and i was never really satisfied with the sound. in saying that however, i recognise that the set up i was using wasn't great, so that probably had a lot to do with it.

The new CC album is gonna sound great.

I think the album will be awesome. Cannibal Corpse know their sound so I doubt they'd let someone screw it up but a lot of people would know better than me on this.

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look how many good albums have been released with shit production tho.......dont ya think most bands would know their shit sounds bad be4 its released ? lol i somehow think they would....

so i highly doubt anything is ever wrote in stone 100%

Not really think of all the shit music out and that totally condraticts your point. We'll all have to wait and see.

Take the band in your avatar for example,Impaled's new album is an example of a good album being crushed by a shit production.

BLASPHOMY!

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS:

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HATE ETERNAL'S LAST 2 ALBUMS PRODUCTION, BUT THEN AGAIN, I LISTEN TO THEM MOSTLY ON HEADPHONES IN THE GYM.....SOMETHING ABOUT HEADPHONES MAKES THINGS SOUND CLEARER AND EVERY LITTLE BIT STANDS OUT. I THINK MR. RUTAN DOES A FINE JOB PRODUCING, A GOOD EXAMPLE BEING THE PATHS OF POSSESSION CD. I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THE MUSICAL STYLE ON THAT DISC, BUT THE PRODUCTION WAS GREAT, VERY CLEAR SOUNDING.


I THINK THE WORRY IS OVER NOTHING, AND ALL WILL BE WELL. OH, AND I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT THE FACT THAT CC AND RUTAN ARE FRIENDS MAY HAVE A BIT TO DO WITH WHY HE'S DOING THE JOB......BUT THAT MAY JUST BE SPECULATION ON MY PART.

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Dont let production be the issue people. The music will still own.