In the box set, on the demo and in their first live show, Barnes sings quite differently, almost punkish or slayerish....not in the low growl like he uses everywhere else. Just wondering what happenned to change his singing between the live show, the demo, and then the final of Eaten Back to Life? It wasn't very long and I wonder how things would have been different if he has sang as he did on the live show.

I personally dont like the singing at the live show/demo. One reason I could never get into Slayer is though I like the music, the singing is completely non-brutal, at least to me. Corey from Slipknot sings more brutal than the singer from Slayer. I've only heard their first couple albums, so maybe they changed later, but early Slayer isn't that great, just in my opinion, I know lots will probably disagree.

i didn't like those vocal either he sang kind of thrash metal with a few growls. i think he just relized he could growl or liked the way it sounded better and sticked to that.

I'll tell you what happened........................
He heard Effigy Of The Forgotten by Suffocation!

Now someone is gonna say that wasnt out when eaten back to life came out but I don't think his vocals were that deep on eaten back to life so i was talking tomb of the mutilated/butchered at birth!

you fucked up first suffocation used effectson the vocald on their first album thats fake and bullshit

Are you sure, it doesnt sound like effects.
If that is so then it pisses me off!

I don't like Barnes' vocals on the video that much either, reminds me to much of Kreator, yuck. Suffocation doesn't sond like effects to me either, but who knows ? in Cannibal Corpse, Barnes kicked more ass than Suffocation ever did. But that early stuff like on the demo, makes me surprised geniouses like Cannibal Corpse even let him stick around for Eaten Back To Life.

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i assure you that suffocation used effects on their first album. thats what is cool about barnes , benton, and corpesgrinder no effects.

Hey guys, let point some things out. I just finished reading one of the questions posted in the Ask The Cannibals section on the CC board at the official site and this might shed some light. It was replyed by Alex (Webster).

He said the Chris's earlier inspiration was Kreator and The Accused. He was listening to Autopsy's Severe Survival and that's what inspires him to do the lower vocals.

And to Mutilated, during the years Chris was in CC, he was pretty much running the show. The band booted him out because it was a thing that was building up. Plus at the time before he left, he was busy recording the first Six Feet Under album and was going to tour. This would leave the band high and dry and the band needed to move forward and finish up what could of been Created To Kill. There was too much at stake and the label was breathing down thier necks and Barnes wasn't keeping CC has his main priority. So the band booted him out and got George and rewrote some of the lyrics in 2 weeks I believe. And the rest is history.

Chris may have thought he was running the show ( that might have been what was building up between them), but anyone can hear Cannibal Corpse basically carried Chris along for most of the first three albums. Sure Chris wrote some cool lyrics for them, but take Cannibal Corpse out of the equation and you've got nothing. Chris' lyrics and vocal aren't that great anyway other than on the later stuff like The Bleeding,.. On Tomb he wasn't not so bad. But the first two albums rule more or less in spite of Chris Barnes than because of him.

All in all, its good that Chris left, because hes gone to shit since then. The Bleeding owned, but SFU is barely worth the hard drive space it takes to download it. Seriously, SFU is pretty sad compared to The Bleeding, thats plain for anyone to see.

Cannibal Corpse > Chris Barns

Hmm...I like barnes, i just think he has more personality and is more of a character and frontman than corpsegrinder, not that george is bad or anything, i just like chris barnes better.

1- his singing is way better in my opinion, much more brutal and angry sounding
2- his lyrics completely own anything that paul or alex has written, much more brutal

all in all much more brutal overall, but yeah, he has de-brutalized quite a bit in SFU. I like SFU and i like barnes still, but he was much better i think in the CC days.

all just my opinion of course

Yeah I can see your point there.


Sorry you lost me. I would say George is the more brutal and angry, though Chris does sound 'scarier' sometimes.


Nah, I don't believe it. I think the lyrics are much better now that the rest of the band is writing them more. Not that Chris didn't write some awesome lyrics though.


of course

and yes, he was much better in the Cannibal Corpse days.

yeah true...i guess i meant scarier.

like on one bullet left on True Carnage, after ice T raps, when barnes comes back in and says "Always got one bullet left One of fifty to their fucking chest", and the music is grinding away, that is the first time i ever felt a little scared during a song like i wanted to look over my shoulder. Not really what he's saying, but how he's saying it and the music behind it, it's all quite ominouse I guess.

I'm more of a barnes fan.
When it comes to lyrics, well I think that the guys who now write the lyrics can only write them cause they got inspiration from barnes lyrics. I also loved the way banres rarely had any rhyme to his lyrics. You can never sing along to barnes songs first time or two of hearing them but I love that.
One thing which spoiled corpsegrinders vocals to me is the change in production and even musical style.
On vile he sounded fucking excellent (the music ruled too) but as soon as they booted scott burns it just lost its brutality. Scott Burns is my personal favourite producer.
I really could be forced to say that I didnt much like bloodthirst or gore obsessed at all. The new album sounds better already though!

(And to add even more their four most popular songs (in my opinion) were written when barnes was in the band -
Skull Full Of Maggots
Hammer Smashed Face
Stripped, Raped And Strangled
Devoured By Vermin

(Remember this is all just opinion, no one get shitty with me!)

The band never booted Scott Burns. Scott Burns wanted to go get a degree to pursue a career in engineeering. So he quit Morrisound. The last few albums he produced are CC's Vile, Malevolent Creation's In Cold Blood, Deicide's Serpents Of The Light and Suffocation's Despite The Sun. After that, he left Morrisound, by his own accord but in good terms.

by their first album do you mean Human Waste of Effigy of the Forgotten....I just got Effigy and I must say it sounds a bit like it is harmonized, ala Bolt Thrower.