Is it just me or is corpsegrinders vox getting more hoarse. I mainly noticed in the wretched spawn. And the guy doesn't smoke as I have heard.

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Only when he talks really, which is to be expected. And no, he doesn't smoke.

Vocals have indeed gone downhill since the epic vocals on Gore Obsessed. Listen for yourself. It's quite noticible.

I don't think his vocals have gone downhill at all...I don't know what you're talking about Josh

I agree, what are you talking about, Josh? Having listened to George's albums MANY MANY MANY times.....there's no difference. Now, there's a HUGE difference from his Monstrosity days up to now.....

shit theres some crazy people on here

his vocals got better on KILL, it sounds like he got some fuckin rock out of his throat they are way more powerful now and in my opinion its gotten way better

I was just watching the Live at the Cow Palace 2002 show, and I was thinking exactly the opposite. I know that was 6 years ago, but I think his vocals are getting clearer at least compared to his vocals on Live Cannibalism.

What I wanna know is, why is this in Cannibal Corpse news?

He sounds quite clear to me . Its just not my prefered style for DM . But hes definatley not losing his voice . If anything = barnes is losing his voice

Gee...you THINK so???

I think Barnes vox are mainly coming from the resin in his lungs.

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No, I honestly don't think George's voice has deteriorated (certainly not hoarse to my ears) in any way over the years and the course of his dozen-year long great career with Cannibal Corpse. Quite the opposite, in some ways, I actually think George has gotten markedly better in terms of his voice and vocal delivery style. This is coming from someone who's never been an avid admirer of Corpsegrinder's vocals, especially his 'screams' which his biggest fans swear by, but I still find extremely annoying. Another thing is that George seems to sing a bit more 'understandable' vocals during the past years (which I instinctively don't much enjoy in brutal-dm) despite the fact that he has had to actually deal with more dense, copious lyrical luggage in the latter CC albums. Credit to him for pulling that off, no matter what I feel about it. There's no doubting, though, that George sounds better today than he did in the first half of his tenure with CC's coveted mics.

As for Chris's voice going downhill (you pick from when....), I hate to agree, but I must. He's still no sorry has-been, no way. I just reckon Chris's voice in the past, predominantly with CC, has been of such a legendary, genre-defining, fan-cult status that any inevitable slip in those stratospheric standards was bound to seem all the more dramatic and dismaying, to us all, fans or not. Anybody as peerlessly great as Chris once undeniably was in the world of Death Metal vocal giants, can only seem a shadow of his former self once those glory years fade away, as they obviously have

I am totally not putting George down for his vox, and I agree that on kill, that his vocals are very good. I am not saying he's losing his voice; it just seems that all the screaming he's done over the years has damaged his throat quite a bit.

I don't think his voice is getting hoarse, but I don't think his screams are as good as they used to be. Just listen to Live Cannibalism and listen to Wacken 07 and you'll hear the difference in the growls.

Ok, you're using live performances as an indicator, and that just isn't fair. When you do an album, you've had a break from the road, for live shows like Wacken, I believe they did a mini-festival tour with that show included. George has ALWAYS sounded hoarse when he speaks, and is understandably hoarse during performances on the road. It doesn't mean his voice is going to shit or degenerating.

Compared to Wacken 2002, he sounded better then than now.

I don't see a downfall in his vox at all, Kill was one of my favorite vocal performances by him.

his vox were awesome on kill, but on the wretched spawn, you could hear how his vocal cords are basically being shredded. That might have been the reason they switched from kernon to rutan. Rutan did a very good job, as far as production goes.

Indeed , its by far the best sounding isnt it ............ dot dot dot

Yeah

Actually, Kernon's production was much better than Rutan's, in my opinion.

I think Kernon did a lot better on gore obsessed than the wretched spawn.

I hate Rutan's production. On Icons of Evil too. I really hope they don't use him again.

Benton's vox were pretty monotone on Icons of evil.

all death metal vocals are monotone , if they werent , theyd be singing actual notes . no ?

well, monotone is just staying the same patterns and not making an attempt to make any words more lower pitched or higher. Corpsegrinder is very good at mixiing it up.

singing the same for the last 6 albums is mixing it up ? again im lost ......

Benton has definately a style , that doesnt need fucking with .

Corpsegrinder just has different vocal patterns. But Benton NOW has this monotone screaming that I didn't care much for on the new vital remains cd, but I think deicide sounds alot better because he does multi-layered vox.

He also did multi vocal tracks on the latest VR - cd

Oh fuck it!! Alright.

I have noticed some sort of difference in George's growls on the later stuff compared to the old stuff.

I think Bloodthirst was his peak for brutal growls.

But the man can still growl fucking amazingly, and the way he makes all his words seem "understandable" is legendary.

It really adds to the experience when you can get what they are saying. But then again, I wouldnt mind some more lower gutturals like Chris used to do from George. Those would be sick!

Hey, they might surprise us with the new album.

Benton's vocals on Icons of Evil were good, but for some reason they sounded a little hoarse at times, but on the new Deicide they sound just as good as ever, I'm referring to the song In The Eyes of God off of Till Death Do Us Part, the upcoming album. I've always wondered how George speaks so hoarsely yet has a powerful growl, Barnes, Vincent, Benton, etc...don't speak hoarsely despite having growld just as long as George or longer.

thats because they have different sources of where their voice comes from. I.E.: Marijuana.

I know live shows are no judge, and I realize this is very old now, but listening to Hammer Smashed Laiterie, the show from KILL's bonus DVD. Well, I have it all in audio format, and the tracklistings are sweet and he still owns, but even his screams are suffering from what this thread is talking about. I think he probably just has his on days and off days. But, KILL's screams in no way sound worse than like, say, VILE's screams even.

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were kind of getting opinions now. His voice(reg.) didn't sound nowhere near as hoarse as now.

i think unless you're a doctor and examined his vocal chords, and even then, all of these answers are going to be opinions....

I'm just pointing out the obvious.

That makes 100 % total sense , and Most here would totally agree with you .

was that really that dumb-sounding? i guess it kind of was.